Check out the attendee list of the Hincapie GF. Both past and present. How about you start calling those pros out? Oh yea, ya know what? Not A. Cyclist — why are you hiding under a fictitious username — which actually tells us everything we want to know about your expertise. Maybe we should be questioning Crankpunk on his quotes from George. I seriously doubt George would be giving interviews to a known hater. Doping is dirty. GH is a doper.
GH is dirty. Sorry, that must be a joke right? Nobody agrees…. Dude, what, exactly, are you trying to change here? You got a problem with that, take it up with George — not the people who tell the truth. I always kinda thought, dope or not, he was a boring racer. I mean, you actually pointed to article where a doper former winner says another doper former winner should get his title back.
So far, all I see from you is that doping is fine. Got it — your logic stinks, but I got it. So tell me, who should we ask then? It seems to me that just about the whole peloton was doping back then. Are you just a bunch of drunken college students killing time at the Apple Store until the bus to Louisville arrives? Thank you for your write-up, I was wondering when someone would write about how wrong it is for George Hincapie to sponsor a development team.
Yet, people are all for Axel working with U23 riders on the Bissell development team. I understand veteran riders bring a wealth of strategy to the sport for young riders to learn and develop, but we need to be consistent, either we turn our noses up on all dopers or we grant amnesty to all. Right now we have such mixed messages going out, that I do not think the sport will totally clean itself up.
So if you want to banish everyone that doped or took part in the doping from back then, Who would be left with pro peloton experience? Shit by your own litmus test… the last time I check Frankie is still running a team. And that is my point, be consistent, either everyone is a x- number of year banned or everyone is given amnesty.
Ban them all. Also ban the sponsors who knowingly supported dopers from sponsoring anyone else for a fair while, and afterwards only under supervision of very strong codes of conduct.
Clean them out. Start again. Regular people know we have to pay our rent, or we lose our apartment. Pay our health insurance or lose it.
Not speed in a school zone or run over children. Not cheat or commit fraud or people get hurt. George is a life long cheater, a fraud. He made hundreds of thousands by fraud. He helped LA destroy others deny others their careers. He rode that gravy train as long as possible. These were his moral choices. They are moral turpitude. We all know it is wrong. They are crimes. These things hurt people. Would he teach his children to rationalize these things. To keep the ill gotten gains from these endeavors.
It is ridiculous to say he is a nice person and defend him. His behavior was wrong. Plain and simple. Athletes have learned to live in a separate universe of over entitled behavior where people live vicariously thru them and hero worship them and give them a free pass. George saw how Lance did it and has somehow wrapped himself in this magical blanket. A youth development team? This is for Not a Cyclist: You are right that other people besides George should be talked about in this manner.
George should not get all the blame, but you need to remember he made his career by cheating. And if you say others in the Euro peloton were cheating too, remember GH raced here in the US against riders who chose not to use drugs, myself being one of them. So I have actually have money and contracts stolen from me from riders who used drugs. Please tell me why I should not be upset. See this is what you miss. Read the books.
It was done strategically during grand tour races, not the one day domestic races. So Im sorry to say if you got beat by George he probably beat you when not doping. And if you raced him posit , he was clean then. But he did get to ride Tour after Tour after Tour and gain all that training and racing in his legs and then come over here and ride away from riders in the US. And he did those Tours because he used drugs.
Do you understand that? It seems very simple to me and I am baffled that other people can not see it also. Cripes boy, someone needs to tell you straight up: You. You are clearly talking fiction. So, doping was only for tours you just said that — you specifically said it was NOT done for one day races. Yes, yes he did. And he was a. But wait, I thought they were all on it? Your logic is lower than that of my 3rd grade son. Also, I did read the books and, yea, you totally can dope for a one day race.
Jeez, boy, you need to get your head checked. I seriously hope George is putting you up in his hotel for like a year — cause the amount you shill for him you deserve it.
This includes your boy George. ATMO — Brad. So velomonkey. All you nay-sayers are quick to point out that they started talking when rising perjury. So why would they risk perjury and lie about post ? I have to agree with CrankPunk. Though Hincapie and others may have lots to teach the new generation about cycling.. Not as a moneymaking opportunity. Michael Barry has his 3rd auto-biography where he fills in all of the omissions in the first two.
Frankie stopped doping by his own volition and admitted to it without a gun to his head. That makes a difference. These guys should be out of the sport. I think Crank is dead on. I do think that he and his supporters do not comprehend the nuances of the pro cycling game. I agree, George was a domestique and front man for Armstrong.
Yet I know detractors of Hincapie, ex pros who were complete egoist, elitest, douches, on par with Lance, who want to tear smiling George a new one. By the way, anyone who detracts from Eddy Merckx, Coppi, Anquentiel or Armstrong, those are fighting words.
True champions. To the individual who mentioned Boyer, another guy I knew personally, we know his history, mother of the abused, etc. Please do not mention his name around a doping blog. He is a completely different case. Armstrong can suck it every day, in court, for the rest of his life, trying to cling to all his cheating, lying, doping, backstabbing, slandering, self-promoting, narcissistic, ill-gotten STOLEN, basically gains.
If you want to waste your breath defending a steaming pile of feces like Armstrong, knock yourself out — even the worst murdering scumbags in prison get marriage offers from losers with no better prospects. I am so sorry Mr. Armstrong's new website attacked Hamilton, who has been banned twice for doping despite his long insistence that he never cheated.
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So that is what I did. I deeply regret that choice and sincerely apologize to my family, teammates and fans. But Hincapie will not be as easy to refute or discredit. Unlike Landis and Hamilton, Hincapie has never tested positive or reversed his story. He retired from pro racing in August after a year professional career that saw him become one of the most respected cyclists in the peloton, and equally beloved by fans.
He also raced in five consecutive Olympic Games. But it was on U. Postal Service in , Armstrong's first Tour win, where the two became inseparable. Hincapie gradually changed to his role of field general for Armstrong. The quintessential teammate, Hincapie was so good at his job that from to Armstrong was never once seriously delayed by or caught up in a crash at the Tour during the race's opening week.
When news broke at the Tour de France that Hincapie had allegedly testified for USADA, he spoke briefly with reporters and declined to address the specifics. Lance has done so many things for the sport. George Hincapie's statement, released October 10, For over 30 years I have dedicated my life to cycling.
I have always been determined to compete at the highest level, in one of the most physically demanding sports. With hard work and success have come great blessings from the sport I love.
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